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Currently we have Canoe Specs, Measurements, Boat Comfort/Quality of Life, and Flatwater Testing.

I am 5ft 6 (167cm) and 140lbs (63.5kg) slightly above the intermediate skill level as a reviewer. I typically fit in all canoes without issue but have a good general idea of a paddler being too big for a given vessel based on club members using boats. The Stingray is a definite blast from the past when looking at the history of outrigger canoes. This model was made in 2006 by Outrigger Connection and is a great showcase in the evolutions made to the boats shape and ergonomics. This boats design from the ground up is to be proficient in large downwind swells specifically and many innovations at the time came at the cost of the boats inherent course racing strengths. Course racing defined as going into and out of conditions in a loop style event as opposed to a one way race contest. Unfortunately I can only flatwater test this model which will highlight the weaknesses of the boat, but we can look at the shapes in the hull to understand where they are stronger and why some of these concepts do not continue to carry over into the current era of boats. Learning what makes a boat behave in a certain way gives us a mastery of identifying where it can be used for maximum efficiency.

Stingray Specs 21ft6in long x 15.5 inches wide (6.55m x 39.3cm) Seat Depth- 2 inches to Velcro (on top of deck) (5cm) Seat Depth with Seat - +1 inches over Velcro (Seat above hull) 2.5cm Seat Width - 15in/38cm Footplate Leg Distance (One setting) 35in/89cm Heel Depth 8.5 inches/21.6cm Ama Distance- Shortest 38in/96.5cm Longest 40in/101.6cm Boat weight for testing - 28lb/12.7kg rigged Rudder 8inch Outrigger Connection Surf Rudder

Outline Measurements from nose 15 inches from nose - 4 inches wide 38cm/10.2cm 30 inches from nose - 7 inches wide 76cm/17.8cm 45 inches from nose - 9 inches wide 114cm/22.3cm 60 inches from nose - 11 inches wide 152cm/27.9cm 75 inches from nose - 12.5 inches wide 190cm/31.8cm

Outline Measurements from tail 75 inches from tail - 13.5 inches wide 190cm/34.3cm 60 inches from tail - 12.5 inches wide152cm/31.8cm 45 inches from tail - 10.5 inches wide 114cm/26.8cm 30 inches from tail - 8.5 inches wide 76cm/21.6cm 15 inches from tail - 5 inches wide 38cm/12.7cm

Cockpit/Seated Area The first thing to point out is the seats are custom to fit one size rider, not the typical small seat with velcro to adjust. It looks like you can cut the foam to make it longer or add more foam to shorten it. With some ingenuity you could make it easy to adjust for different sizes, but the default design is more of a fixed seat. The next feature is having the higher seat position comparatively to the hulls we sit inside of today. The higher position is a definite leverage advantage with the stroke but the higher tipping point adds instability, as a result there are some aspects of the ama that help to counter this for stability. That will be discussed further down. Heel to sit bone ratio is very standard with around a 10 inch/25cm difference, makes for good leg drive potential and comfort with the legs. The steering pedals are carbon which is a nice touch, but are known to warp over time with the stainless steel cable pulling on them. This model is in great condition but I have owned other outrigger connection boats where the pedals will fold over a period of time. Heat will weaken the thin carbon then pressure on steering will win the battle.



Quality of Life Details

One quality of life feature that is much different is having the iakos attach with a twisting screw mechanism at all four points into the canoe and the ama. Works great and secures the boat wonderfully, just be careful not to lose these! The weight of the boat being made with fiberglass is around 28lbs/13kg fully rigged. The extra weight overall is not that big of a deal in the world of paddle craft in general but specifically in the OC realm we have been spoiled with ultralight vessels. The heel ergonomics, like the hurricane, can be a little uncomfortable if you do not have adequate dorsiflexion in the heel from lack of flexibility.





Boat Overview:

There is a lot to unpack with the design of this boat and the innovations at the time that were integrated into this hull. We will look at these designs at face value, their purposes and then with the flatwater testing see how they contrast in that situation specifically. First is the length of the boat at 21.5ft/6.5m with a minimal rocker line. Rocker is the banana curve boats have to help with surfing, but this design keeps a large majority of the hull in the water and finds its surfing ability from being very buoyant. We can see the majority of the buoyancy in the tail outline measurements that comes in almost 30% wider overall than most boats today with a sleeker profile. This big tail is amazing in finding lift on swells and keeping the boat high off the water. The rudder placement is around 3ft/1meter from the tail. This is a metric I have not quantified but its around 50% further forward. The further forward the rudder is, the more maneuverability you will have, and this boat with all its length definitely is the most nimble even compared to the 18ft/5.6m Cantare. The ama can be rigged through a huge range of balances, at its most "light" setting the boat is actually leaning to the right side without a rider in it. The biggest feature of all is the "chines" on the bottom of the hull. Chines are hard straight angles that help push a boat up with enough force, akin to a foil board on a much lesser extreme. These hard angles, combines with the buoyancy in the wider tail, and a very forward maneuverable rudder makes this an absolute monster when surfing waves! Surfing and flatwater glide are on a spectrum together, as you move to one end, you pull away from the other... which we will look at next.

(With all canoes your height, weight, age, current skill level and paddling environment will influence how each boat feels and that dynamic will continue to move back and forth on a spectrum forever)





Flatwater Testing Overview: For all tests ongoing we will be using the format of 3 miles 4827m at a specific stroke rate. This lake has the same water depth annually for consistency, and the course is marked by 4 buoys that do not change position making it easy to run different boats on the course for cross analysis. The Stroke Rate goal is a submaximal 55SPM with a margin of error for 1SPM 54-56spm. Noting boat weights and rudder sizes as potential future differences amongst similar shaped boats. This serves as a good general guide on boats that vary dramatically in shape, but will also be fun to see how boats compare and factoring in the outline measurements towards that.



Flatwater Testing - Whew.... that was a brutal 3 miler for me! For reference I was able to take my Draco at 8:52/mile for 3 HOURS recently, so going 13s/mile slower for 1/6th of the duration tells a lot about the contrasting boat designs. Having a longer hull, low rocker, high volume, wide outline, hard chine, and forward rudder boat while also being a lightweight creates a tremendous amount of friction to overcome with limited weight to throw around. When nature creates waves the boat can harness that energy, but when you are solely creating that energy it becomes very hard to create and maintain that glide. More length can be a faster cruising hull but its on a diminishing returns spectrum. The outline of the boat is not much of a dart shape and more of a rectangle, which adds to the lack of glide created. These features alone are not enough, the real culprit to limited glide potential is the hard chines in the water. Rounded edges create less friction through the water, which is why a majority of kayaks/canoes have a very smooth semi-circle shape. As water rushes into these chines it creates more friction which slows the boat. Paddling it was interesting since with powerful strokes I couldnt create enough energy to sustain glide before the boat slowed on the recovery, and if the stroke rate went up the power wasnt there to move the hull enough at all. In a full sprint scenario it behaves well, but anything beyond a few minutes and those shapes are working against you.


Final Thoughts: Overall these boats make excellent entry level ways to enter the sport, and are wonderful training resources for paddlers to use. When we do these reviews we are looking at them in the most optimized race setting, but this isnt a showcase to put down a boat. We want to understand these designs and see why the industry has moved away from these them towards modern innovations. Hopefully I can get more of these Outrigger Connection boats because they have a fun progression through their models like the Fusion, Fuze, Osprey and so on.

Thank you all for checking out the article. If you have any questions about boats or our online coaching feel free to message anytime via Live Chat or my email Robertnorman142@yahoo.com

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Thanks for checking out our 6th surfski review. This post will make direct reference to the previous articles found at www.k2nonlinepaddleschool.com/gear-reviews

All input is appreciated so we can continue to structure these better! Currently we have Boat Specs, Measurements, Stability Rating, Remount Rating, and Flatwater Testing.


I am 5ft 6 (167cm) and 140lbs (63.5kg) slightly above the intermediate skill level as a reviewer. I typically fit in all boats without issue but have a good general idea of a paddler being too big for a given vessel based on club members using boats.


The Epic V5 has been a boat that I have been very keen on doing a gear review on. Primarily to fulfill my own personal curiosity in regards to the influence of length on the overall hull speed as well as feel how nimble a short boat can get. At 14ft/4.25m in length theres always been a fascination with understanding when the hull length begins to noticeably diminish the speed potential and balancing out the off the water convenience to that loss in performance. The polyethylene layup, like discussed in the other plastic surfski articles, is nearly indestructible at the cost of being nearly double the weight of the carbon layup. We will discuss the implications to brand new paddlers and its overall fit/role as a surfski within the line up of other boats.

Epic V5 Plastic Specs

14 feet long x 23.6 inches wide (4.25m×60cm)

Bucket Depth 9 inches 22.9cm

Bucket Width(Highest point) 17 inches wide 43.2cm

Bucket Width (Lowest point) 10 inches wide 25.4cm

Footplate length (Longest setting) 41 inches 104cm

Footplate length (Shortest setting) 29 inches 73.7cm

Heel Depth 9.5 inches 24.1cm

Hump Height (highest point in cockpit) 5inches 12.7cm

Boat weight for testing - 49 pounds 22.2kg

Overstern Pop-up Rudder 10inch/25.4cm


(Used 10in/25cm increments to get a better proportional outline since the boat is so short!)

Outline Measurements from nose

10 inches from nose - 5 inches wide 25.4cm/12.7cm

20 inches from nose - 8 inches wide 50.8cm/20.3cm

30 inches from nose - 11 inches wide 76.2cm/27.9cm

40 inches from nose - 13 inches wide 101.6cm/33cm

50 inches from nose - 15.5 inches wide 127cm/39.3cm


Outline Measurements from tail

50 inches from tail - 21 inches wide 127cm/53.3cm

40 inches from tail - 18 inches wide101.6cm/45.7cm

30 inches from tail - 15.5 inches wide 76.2cm/39.4cm

20 inches from tail - 11.5 inches wide 50.8cm/29.2cm

10 inches from tail - 7 inches wide 25.4cm/17.8cm

Cockpit/Bucket Area

This bucket is very interesting with its shaping. It is tied for the widest opening at the top of the bucket at 17in/43cm, but it narrows off into 10in/25.4cm at the bottom. It does not fit great for my personal sit bone shape, as I have rubbed some of the skin off while paddling. No issues with any other Epic shape so far. What makes it interesting is the opening at the top seems to accommodate larger sized paddlers but inside the bucket itself there is not nearly as much room. Everyone has different sit bone shapes so this does not mean it will be an issue for you. But, don't be deceived into thinking because the boat is wide, that the bucket is proportionally as wide or wider than other narrower boats.

The footwells feels similar to the V8Pro setup, the footplates come very close for shorter leg length paddlers but still has a wide range for leg length. At 41 in/ 104 cm at the maximum length this may not be far enough for long legged paddlers sitting posterior in the bucket, but should fit the majority of paddlers sitting upright. The footplate itself easily adjusts with two pop in pins which is also standard in the epic lineup. Water bottle storage in the center right above the bailer. Great bailer design to easily open and to quickly flush water from a swamped cockpit.

Quality of Life Details

The carry handles on the bow and stern are very ergonomic. You really rely on these handles being comfortable with the boat being heavier. The center carry handles are metal bars that are very sturdy for lifting the heavier construction. The handles can dig into your hands when carrying it suitcase style by the side, but its easier to hoist overhead when you can make a full fist with your hand. The Nelo 510 had cutouts in the hull for handles that distributed weight on the hand nicer when holding it by the side, but made transitioning overhead trickier. This boat comes equipped with the overstern rudder but has the understern option avaiable . Two allen key locks screw together on a yoke to pinch the rudder shaft, same system as the other epic lineup. There is a rear hatch with a cover that is pretty spacious at 10 gallons/ 46 liters of space. The cover is secure with a bungee to add to the security. No front hatch opening only bungees beyond the footplate.




Stability Rating: The stability surprised me with this boats specs and its initial feeling. You would assume it is "more" stable than the V7 but it doesnt immediately feel that way. I believe the shorter length does contribute to a more unstable boat overall more so than the small difference in overall width. I would mark the two as about the same stability. What that means, is you can put the majority of first timers into this boat and have absolutely no fears of falling unless they are larger sized paddlers. It seems like many paddlers over 6ft3 end up with this boat and have major stability issues, in part due to pushing to the maximum weight capacity sooner than boats 3-5ft/1-1.25m longer. For smaller paddlers the V5 likely feels slightly more stable, but for larger paddlers the V7 would be more stable.


The overall width is usually a great indicator of stability but there are design choices that can make it more or less tippy and this boat leans into less tippy in most regards. This boat keeps a lot of its narrower outlines in the front of the boat but becomes very wide through the tail. The wider tail is what gives it such a great stability rating and feel. This also engages great while surfing to lift the tail sooner as well. The hull underside like many epic boats is mostly rounded which helps with its glide but is always a little less stable than a flat bottom hull. The balance of the width and outline help offset the rounded undersides instability to bring together a very beginner friendly boat.


(With all surfski your height, weight, age, current skill level and paddling environment will influence how each boat feels and that dynamic will continue to move back and forth on a spectrum forever. These ratings will give some insight into what the boats shape will do for rating as we begin comparing them to other similar model widths with different outline measurements. We will work towards numerical ratings as more reviews are completed to compare boat to boat on stability.)

Remount Rating: Great boat to learn remounting thanks to the relatively high seat position, wide rails, and wider tail outline. The handles are a little intrusive while remounting but can be easily avoided if you are mindful of them. Having protruding carry handles are great off the water but can easily scrape the side of your body while remounting. You do have to manually fall out of the boat since it seems near impossible to actually flip over at my, weight/size at least.


(Like Stability Ratings, we will rate remount ratings boat to boat as we complete more reviews.)


Flatwater Testing Overview: For all tests ongoing we will be using the format of 3 miles 4827m at a specific stroke rate. This lake has the same water depth annually for consistency, and the course is marked by 4 buoys that do not change position making it easy to run different boats on the course for cross analysis. The Stroke Rate goal is a submaximal 45SPM(This denotes double strokes, so 90SPM single strokes) with a margin of error for 1SPM 44-46spm. Noting boat weights and rudder sizes as potential future differences amongst similar shaped boats. This serves as a good general guide on boats that vary dramatically in width, but will also be fun to see how similar width boats compare and factoring in the outline measurements towards that.




Flatwater Testing - For this test I had to change some of the parameters. In all honesty, 90SPM/45DSPM of the standard test would have likely given me a heart attack, so I adjusted the strokes per minute down to 80SPM/40DSPM. The real issue with the higher stroke rate is you can only hit those numbers by "cheating" the stroke and removing the blade too early. The boat produces almost no glide (comparatively to other surfski) and each stroke takes longer to complete because of this lack of momentum stroke to stroke. Although it is not a direct comparison with stroke rate to stroke rate, the adjustment helps play into the boats behaviors to make it perform better, rather than force the boat to respond to input it is not designed for. That all being said, it moves well enough to represent the world of surfski in a proper manner, as this shape and design is still likely faster than 99% of sea kayak shapes. Comparing it to other surfski it is by and large the slowest boat, at a whopping 40s/mile slower than the plastic V7. For example that margin is more than what seperates a V7 to an 18in/46cm wide carbon surfski for myself. The biggest hinderance in the performance seems to be the length more so than the width. Getting to such a short length, the hull is not working with the paddler to maintain its glide through the water and it becomes a real battle keeping the boat moving. Maneuverability is amazing, the 180 turns and 90 turns were instantaneous with immediate response. Taking wider strokes on one side to help with the turns has a direct impact on steering quicker which is a nice feeling for pushing around turns faster.



Final Thoughts: I can not imagine too many scenarios where the V5 would be the perfect choice for boat purchase. It seems to be a great entry for sea kayakers to get into surfski with its compact shaping that is more akin to those boat styles. But, the amount of performance gained from boats 3-4ft longer seems to outweigh every downside. Longer boats (surprisingly) weigh the same in both the plastic and carbon style layups. Can be equipped with oversterns and hatch systems. And the difference in length for maneuverability in tight paddling scenarios is often overcome by the user. (www.youtube.com/watch?v=NR3gs6IOUvw)

Let me know your thoughts on the V5 and its place within the surfski spectrum that cant be accomplished with a slightly longer variation like the V7/V8!




Thank you all for checking out the article if you have any questions about boats or our online coaching feel free to message anytime via Live Chat or my email Robertnorman142@yahoo.com Youtube.com/@K2NOPS


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Thanks for checking out our 5th surfski review. This post will make direct reference to the V8Pro review which you can check out here. https://www.k2nonlinepaddleschool.com/post/surfski-gear-review-epic-v8pro-ultra

All input is appreciated so we can continue to structure these better! Currently we have Boat Specs, Measurements, Stability Rating, Remount Rating, and Flatwater Testing.


I am 5ft 6 (167cm) and 140lbs (63.5kg) slightly above the intermediate skill level as a reviewer. I typically fit in all boats without issue but have a good general idea of a paddler being too big for a given vessel based on club members using boats.


The Stellar S18S Gen 1 has been a primary transitional boat for paddlers coming from sea kayaks into the sit on top surfski boat type. In the Stellar line up this boat is mirrored with a sit inside option with the same hull shape. This Gen 1 has been updated into a Gen 2 and ultimately the newest "Osprey" naming which we hope to try out as well. The excel layup is the second lightest layup option. As a quick note I could not get someone to take photos of me today, so only photos of the boat this time!

S18S Gen 1 Excel Specs

18 feet long x 21 inches wide (5.48m×53.3cm)

Bucket Depth 9 inches 22.9cm

Bucket Width(Highest point) 17 inches wide 43.2cm

Bucket Width (Lowest point) 13 inches wide 33cm

Footplate length (Longest setting) 45 inches 114.3cm

Footplate length (Shortest setting) 32 inches 81.3cm

Heel Depth 9.5 inches 24.1cm

Hump Height (highest point in cockpit) 4inches 10.16cm

Boat weight for testing - 29 pounds 13.1kg

Rudder 8 Inch Surf Standard 20.3cm


Outline Measurements from nose

15 inches from nose - 4.5 inches wide 38cm/11.4cm

30 inches from nose - 8.5 inches wide 76cm/21.6cm

45 inches from nose - 11 inches wide 114cm/27.9cm

60 inches from nose - 12.5 inches wide 152cm/31.75cm

75 inches from nose - 17 inches wide 190cm/43cm


Outline Measurements from tail

75 inches from tail - 20 inches wide 190cm/50.8cm

60 inches from tail - 18.5 inches wide152cm/47cm

45 inches from tail - 15.5 inches wide 114cm/39.4cm

30 inches from tail - 11 inches wide 76cm/27.9cm

15 inches from tail - 6 inches wide 38cm/15.25cm

Cockpit/Bucket Area

This is one of the widest buckets I have ever used in a surfski. At 17in/43cm wide at the top and 13.5in/33cm at the bottom that extra inch of room comparatively to most other surfski does make it spacious. The entire footwell area is very wide as well creating a long rectangular spacing to the end of the cockpit where the first storage hatch is at. This hatch opens a lot of space within the bow for storage. The heel to sit bone ratio is about the same, with the heels very slightly lower. As with many generation 1 models of boats the "hump" height in the cockpit is about 5in/12.5cm up from the heel/hips meaning your legs will touch this contour within the boat during leg drive. The rails for the footplate can be adjusted on screws it looks like, and it is on the longer setting for the 32in-45in/81cm-114cm range. You can definitely move it closer if you have shorter legs. I was able to manage on the shortest setting of the longer leg configurations. The gen 1 features 2 bullets on the bottom for bailing out the boat.

Quality of Life Details

This boat has very nice carry handles at the bow/stern that are cushioned. The rails in the center cockpit are metal and very ergonomic for lifting the boat easily from the center point. The center bars are positioned so you do not notice them during remounts, which is very nice as this is a typical downside to center handles. Having used and owned stellars in the past, I am a fan of the 3 point locking system for the footplate adjustments. There is a trick in pushing down on the locks on the side rails to get them to unlock before moving which makes them easy to adjust. Many paddlers will fuss with this system and think its very sticky if you omit this step. The rear hatch is a great addition if you are looking to haul gear with the performances of a sit on top style boat. Again, highlighting its entryway from more traditional sea kayakers. The rudder system is very easy to change only needing a single socket. The stellar rudders are universal across most (all?) models which makes it simple to swap between different boats. It is also equipped to take an overstern rudder without any modifications.



Stability Rating: This may be the most stable surfski of all time. A bold claim to make, but this is absolutely more stable than I predicted from the width alone. There are multiple designs within the hulls outline and shaping on the underside that lead the boat to be incredibly stable. The primary stability is so pronounced that the boat will kick you back to upright before you can push the rails underwater to engage the secondary stability. Maybe it is because I am a smaller sized paddler but I struggled to even flip this boat over when I wanted to. The secondary stability is met with rails 2-3in/5-7.5cm wide which means there is a lot of forgiveness before a flip. Combined with the very large bucket and you could but someone 250lbs in this vessel with a high chance of success.


The overall width is usually a great indicator of stability but there are design choices that can make it more or less tippy and this boat leans into less tippy in most regards. There is a dramatic jump in width from the nose outline as it reaches the cockpit area which makes the boat very rectangular through the middle. The tail outline is very wide for the majority of the area behind the bucket that accentuates this wide outline. This adds a lot of stability through the shape instead of narrowing into points sooner from the widest point, it holds that width for a large section of the boat. The underside of the boat has very flat edges that are wide for a majority of the boat. Rounded undersides have less friction which means more speed, but that friction with the water is the stability as well, in this case it has a LOT of friction from the flat edges, which is why the primary stability is so pronounced.


These factors all combined lead this to be one of the most stable boats out there. Even being in a lighter layup that may make a boat feel more twitchy, this was as rock solid as a wider plastic surfski (which we have also done gear reviews on!

(https://www.k2nonlinepaddleschool.com/gear-reviews)


(With all surfski your height, weight, age, current skill level and paddling environment will influence how each boat feels and that dynamic will continue to move back and forth on a spectrum forever. These ratings will give some insight into what the boats shape will do for rating as we begin comparing them to other similar model widths with different outline measurements. We will work towards numerical ratings as more reviews are completed to compare boat to boat on stability.)

Remount Rating: In relation to the comments on stability, those sentiments translate over into the remounting process. With the primary stability wanting to pull the boat back to a level position, it feels like its literally helping you pull back into the boat as you are pulling yourself into it. The rails are in a great spot to not really be in the way, but be conscious of where your fingers are! As you transition your legs around the boat is actively working to stay upright and help you during the process. Definitely a great boat to practice your remount skills with.


(Like Stability Ratings, we will rate remount ratings boat to boat as we complete more reviews.)


Flatwater Testing Overview: For all tests ongoing we will be using the format of 3 miles 4827m at a specific stroke rate. This lake has the same water depth annually for consistency, and the course is marked by 4 buoys that do not change position making it easy to run different boats on the course for cross analysis. The Stroke Rate goal is a submaximal 45SPM(This denotes double strokes, so 90SPM single strokes) with a margin of error for 1SPM 44-46spm. Noting boat weights and rudder sizes as potential future differences amongst similar shaped boats. This serves as a good general guide on boats that vary dramatically in width, but will also be fun to see how similar width boats compare and factoring in the outline measurements towards that.




Flatwater Testing - The battle of stability vs speed is always on a sliding spectrum. As you slide towards stability you lose out on the things that makes a boat fast and vice versa. With stability being no barrier to technique or movement, you can immediately see why paddlers look to transition into sportier boats. I did not really look at the boat too closely until after the time trial and was a little flabbergasted at why it wasn't moving as well as I had imagined. Combined with the 8 inch surf rudder, leg length being a little too far away, and no foot strap to engage (for myself apparently I really utilize it for pulling while one leg pushes!) this time trial was about on par with some of the plastic surfski boats. All the properties that help it stay incredibly stable hold back the boat from really gliding well. Each stroke takes a bit of effort and there is not a big moment of boat glide. Compared to the V8Pro time trial (8:05/mile vs 8:26/mile), it goes beyond the 1 inch difference in width when comparing every other aspect of the boats shaping/design. In contrast the V8Pro is MUCH tippier in comparison which is funny to say since it is also pretty stable. The foot pedals are tensioned with a knot system that is fairly complex to mess with on the fly, so the tension on the pedals wasn't great to take full advantage of the 8 inch rudder on turns. The turn radius on most turns was very wide which added to the speed barriers.



Final Thoughts: There are a lot of strengths that this boat provides being wide for larger paddlers with supreme stability, this is a huge selling point for a lot of paddlers especially coming from the more spacious sea kayak world. When put to the test for most paddlers, stability is king, and the inability to move freely in a narrower boat means they will end up slower than having something wider. I think for many racers this boat will be faster than a narrower counterpart because of that. When stability is no more of a factor, the speed increases will come instantly and dramatically.





Thank you all for checking out the article if you have any questions about boats or our online coaching feel free to message anytime via Live Chat or my email Robertnorman142@yahoo.com Youtube.com/@K2NOPS


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